I am Elephant, hear me roar

There are two competing narratives coming out of the Republican Party today.  One is from former President Bush who is all agush about the Tea Party. The other is from elephant establishmentarians who are now saying that Sarah Palin and her Tea Party compatriots cost the Republican Party the U.S. Senate.  The Democratic party may be in shambles, but the GOP is in the middle of its own little civil war.  As these intraparty factions fight, are we possibly seeing the potential for some kind of third party movement or break?

Politico has the Dubya story which stems from a Sean Hannity interview that will be viewable on Fox tonight should you care to see it.  I don’t, but hey to each their own.

Former President George W. Bush says the tea party movement is a sign that “democracy works in America.”

In an interview with Fox News’s Sean Hannity set to air Monday night, Bush heralds the grass-roots conservative movement as a “good thing” for the American political system.

“I see democracy working,” Bush said. “People are expressing a level of frustration or concern, and they’re getting involved in the process. And the truth of the matter is, democracy works in America.”

“It’s a good thing for the country,” he added. “It inspires me to know that our democracy still functions. What would be terrible is if people were frustrated and they didn’t do anything.”

Bush is not a popular figure among many tea party supporters, who criticize his decision to bail out some of the country’s largest banks in the fall of 2008.

Still, the former president said he welcomed the movement, pointing to tea party involvement in Republican Sen. Scott Brown’s special election win in Massachusetts as the point when things began to turn around for the GOP.

The Hill has the party establishment line on Palin and her Tea Partying rogues. This sounds like dueling sound bites to me.

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) cost the GOP control of the Senate, a powerful House Republican said.

Rep. Spencer Bachus (Ala.) said that Tea Party-backed candidates endorsed by Palin underperformed against their Democratic rivals, costing the GOP key pickup opportunities.

“The Senate would be Republican today except for states [in which Palin endorsed candidates] like Christine O’Donnell in Delaware,” Bachus said at a local Chamber of Commerce event last week, the Shelby County Reporter wrote Sunday. “Sarah Palin cost us control of the Senate.”

Bachus is one of the most visible Republicans to criticize Palin, a Tea Party icon, for her political activities during the election season. Some Republicans have privately groused that Tea Party-backed candidates who were not electable prevented the GOP from taking control of the upper chamber.

The Alabama congressman noted that candidates backed by the Tea Party fared well in the House but “didn’t do well at all” in Senate races.

This narrative is almost as strange as the competing ones coming from the Democratic Party over Nancy Pelosi and her future leadership position. The Hill has an interesting statement from Congress Critter James Clyburn on Pelosi and the elections.  Blue dawgs are planning on a challenge to Pelosi.

Outgoing Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) leadership had “nothing to do” with Democrats’ losses in last week’s election, the No. 3 House Democrat said Monday.

Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) blamed the poorly-performing economy for the party’s electoral drubbing, which saw them lose around 60 seats in the House, along with their control of the majority.

“It has everything to do with an environment that we found ourselves in that had nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi or the people that we had on the field,” Clyburn said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“We’re very introspective about this, and we are having discussions as to how we should go forward,” the South Carolina Democrat explained. “And I think that my party feels that this had nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi’s leadership. It had everything to do with an economy that was close to collapse.

While, the NYT Op-Ed page is basically calling for Congress Critter Pelosi’s head.

Ms. Pelosi announced on Friday that she would seek the post of House minority leader. That job is not a good match for her abilities in maneuvering legislation and trading votes, since Democrats will no longer be passing bills in the House. What they need is what Ms. Pelosi has been unable to provide: a clear and convincing voice to help Americans understand that Democratic policies are not bankrupting the country, advancing socialism or destroying freedom.

If Ms. Pelosi had been a more persuasive communicator, she could have batted away the ludicrous caricature of her painted by Republicans across the country as some kind of fur-hatted commissar jamming her diktats down the public’s throat. Both Ms. Pelosi and Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, are inside players who seem to visibly shrink on camera when defending their policies, rarely connecting with the skeptical independent voters who raged so loudly on Tuesday.

It seems like there are fractures in both parties that stem from the behavior of the inner party sanctums that don’t seem to feel any need to change their ways or their power brokers.  How much establishment ‘shellacking’ will it take for them both to look at the polls and realize no one likes them?

If  ever there was a time for some one to step up with a voice of sanity and reason, now would be it. And I don’t mean Jon Stewart over at Comedy Central either.  I still find the idea of a third party an appealing pox and check on both their houses.  Anything would be better than the current zoo.


24 Comments on “I am Elephant, hear me roar”

  1. cwaltz says:

    I’m torn because I have no love for Nancy Pelosi but I have absolutely zero confidence that someone like Hoyer would be better. Which means my hope for true leadership that represents ME from the Democrats in the House as nil.

    • dakinikat says:

      It’s a huge mess. I’m not sure they’ll clean it up in a few years. They need some new blood or some old time democratic barn burners. What we have no is a bunch of mush.

      • mablue2 says:

        I think Pelosi’s only problem is that she’s not an effective communicator, but who is? The WH gets an F in communication and it’s supposed to be full of pros.
        Aren’t these the genuises who keep losing every PR battle?

        My problem is that the GOP is demanding Pelosi’s scalp and I don’t want them to get it. Dems should should understand that the Rightwing would be happy only once the Democratic Party is obsolete. Giving them scalps they’re demanding never helps. How many good people did the WH sacrifice at the altar of Glenn Beck?

        • cwaltz says:

          I don’t know taking single payer off the table was pretty effective communication. So was essentially giving a minority bloc within the Democratic Party the means to co opt health care, she easily could have told Stupak to get bent when he attempted to insert himself into the debate. Instead she basically told a coalition of 40 to listen to a coalition of 12. I’d say that was moreof a poor leadership thing then a poor messaging thing.

          That being said I daresay Hoyer would have done anything other than have offered an amendment up on abortion. He’s a horrendous piece of work IMO.

          • mablue2 says:

            Let’s not forget: Nancy Pelosi was shepherding the President’s agenda through the House, that’s her job. He is the leader of the Party.

            Btw, with this bizarre crop of Dems, anyone still believes single payer ever had a change? Just look at the watered-down bill Stupak and his gang still held hostage.

          • cwaltz says:

            Oh I blame Obama and Reid too. Plenty of blame to go around IMO. I just think Spkr Pelosi ALSO did a poor job. Stand out Democrats are few and far between at this point and they largely seem more invested in protecting the status quo rather than the rest of us. I have absolutely no confidence in our government anymore and that’s a sad, sad thing. Is it any wonder the GOP is making gains when you have people wondering why in the world you should fund an organization who seems heck bent on acting against your interests when they do actually do something?

    • bostonboomer says:

      Hoyer would be a nightmare for liberals!

  2. janicen says:

    It sounds like the Democrats are in denial, blaming their defeat on the economy rather than their lackluster performance, and the Republicans are in disarray. Good. If both parties are off-ballance, then the dissatisfaction of the voters is having the desired effect.

    The country is ripe for a strong third party, but I don’t have high hopes for success in that arena. It seems the only thing the two major parties do well is to undermine viable alternatives.

  3. Rickpa says:

    Any real change must come through any insurgency which might exist within an official sanctioned party. Sometimes it must come from without as the Nader/Progressive bloc did in 2000, then as the Howard Dean contingent in 2004. This is the Republicans turn. 😉

    An interesting aside, for Democrats the talking point is that we are seeing a homogeneous far right (“not your father’s) GOP.” For Republicans, all Democrats are Nancy Pelosi. Both parties are far more interesting than their opposition would have anyone believe.

    I wonder what common ground we might find if we could just ditch the tired old paradigms and prejudices?

  4. Rickpa says:

    That first paragraph looks more than a little unfocused that I’d like. I needed to add that the Progressives came from being outside in 2000 to being more inside in 2004, then became the inside fully in 2006. 🙂

    • Dee says:

      What is a “progressive”?

      I know some people who identify as progressive who are actually libertarian righties. I know some that are moderate in the extreme – they take no actual positions but don’t want to be a social outsider. I know some that are a little left. Please list a couple of policy positions.

  5. foxyladi14 says:

    death by fire or hanging

  6. Dee says:

    HEADS UP

    Tonight at 9:00 pm E – National Geographic Channel will show Inside The State Department

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    • juststoppingby says:

      Thanks Dee!

      • Dee says:

        Did you watch? It was really interesting.

        I wasn’t surprised by all the planning and security work but couldn’t believe the schedule changes in the middle of a trip to ME.

        Didn’t realize we have just 1% approval rating in Pakistan.

        • dakinikat says:

          I’m down frenchman list to jazz with Dr. Daughter.

          • Dee says:

            Have fun with Doctor Daughter. Didn’t you just have a b-day also? I am a Scorpio – as was my mother. Lots and lots of headbutting. I used to think if she ever gave in or gave up I would fall over because her stubbornness was the thing keeping me balanced.

            I just looked at the National Geographic Channel schedule – looks like they will be showing it several more times.

  7. jillforhill says:

    The State Department special was great and love all the details they focus on. Everybody works hard and loves it.

  8. Seriously says:

    <If Ms. Pelosi had been a more persuasive communicator, she could have batted away the ludicrous caricature of her painted by Republicans across the country as some kind of fur-hatted commissar jamming her diktats down the public’s throat.

    Right, like how? They can criticize Pelosi on substance, but they need to demonstrate how anyone who has a real chance of becoming Leader would be better, cuz it’s starting to remind me of Hillary versus Putative Ideal Primary Contender Who Probably Doesn’t Exist and Certainly Isn’t In the Race. If the NYT thinks the Repubs will lay off Hoyer or anyone else, they’re dreaming.